Understood. I would imagine it would be like the current method. Downloading and clearing an SD card / naming demo.bin and letting it do it’s thing.
Not looking for any recording settings, just some basic stuff like the Dafang hacks repo has in terms of Auto Night Vision (works great on v2) and 3 streaming quality profiles.
Thank you for working on this!
Bring it ON! This support will be awesome.
A straight RTSP feed would allow me to capture this with my NVR of choice, Netcam Studio has motion detection with multiple zones, timelapse, audio, etc.
It’s all I want.
This plan would work for me, but for an average nontechnical person it’s pretty onerous to have to deal with manually flashing.
Would you consider also selling a version of the camera that comes with the RTSP firmware? That would allow me to recommend it to nontechnical people looking for a good indoor RTSP-capable camera. Many of them wind up buying the very questionable options available on Amazon now but I doubt most of them would want to deal with flashing by themselves (and I don’t want to be doing it for them :-).
P.S. I even think it would be fine to charge a little bit extra for the RTSP version, if that helps. It would still be a good value.
Right now, the main reason I am not using alt firmware is that I don’t want to lose Alexa support.
If I can keep that and PTZ, then I would be in favor of this. If I was to lose those features though, Wyze would be just the same as all my other Chinese cheap cams. The whole idea for me was to REPLACE my Chinese cams with WyzeCams.
RTSP is important, but to lose a basic feature like PTZ would be a ridiculous trade off. Same for Alexa support - especially when my Wyze Cams are the only ones I have that reliably work with Alexa consistently.
This is a good start. I had hoped for the ability to have an nvr grab the streams for local storage in while still utilizing the native app however I’m guessing this comes down to a limitation of the hardware.
Please also add me to this as well. I have the Wyze Pan cam and honestly I love it as far as the hardware goes, but the software/app is really where it’s hurting. I live in a small apartment and I have it in my window, but have considered investing in putting it outside since the nightvision won’t work behind the window. The LED’s glare off of the glass. Not Wyze’s fault for sure. But if I’m going to really go that far, I want it to be able to record down to my server and not rely only on the SD card inside. What if someone tampers with the camera? What if the camera is stolen or damaged from severe weather? (I’d risk leaving it outside for a hurricane just to capture the footage).
So having the ability to record/watch on my local PC/Home Server would be amazing. Ability to motion track AND still have the PTZ functions would be nice too. Either way, progress is progress and I’d like to vote yes to this.
RTSP would be great, but if I can’t have it alongside the existing firmware and feature set, I’m not interested.
bummer if it cant do both. but still id use it for my security cameras, but probably leave a few running stock and utilizing ‘the cloud’
nice thing is if it supports rtsp or really 1000 other protocols then ipcamera viewer will be able to do the motion recording and multiplexing i want. voted!
While I can’t wait to use the cams with my iSpy NVR application, given iSpy has PTZ + auto PTZ tracking control and at least 1 way audio, it would be disappointing to lose those capabilities just for the sake of RTSP. Can we lose other less important stuff like Time Lapse, Motion Tagging etc. which are easily available in apps that receive RTSP feeds?
But, if there is no choice, I’ll take it. Can combine full capability cam with less cable RTSP version where applicable.
My house could use about 8 to 10 more cameras (replacing an older security system), but lack of RTSP is a deal-breaker, so I won’t buy more cameras unless I can get RTSP. I also have extended family looking for a similar solution, and again RTSP is a must-have. If I can get RTSP, these cams are exactly what I am looking for.
I am exactly the kind of person mentioned previously in the conversation – a tech enthusiast (and CTO for a small company). I won’t pay for a pricey subscription, but I recommend tech to people who will. (That’s not any sort of threat – just telling you that tech enthusiasts are definitely thinking this way.)
If you have to weed down the firmware, please try to keep the following:
I don’t need it to do motion detection, alerts, etc. My NVR will do that stuff.
I also understand that PTZ would be desired for many, but I’m not planning to buy any PTZ cameras at present, so I care less about that.
Can you clarify your port point?
Each camera has a (distinct) IP and is being addressed through it (example: rtsp://192.168.1.199/live). So multiple cameras should not be a problem. I see changing the port number for the RTSP protocol to connect to.
Selling an alternate version would be cost prohibitive. Because we would have to create a separate SKU , inventories and distribution for it. People might be confused also between the difference of RTSP vs non RTSP versions, so a lot more education to make sure that people are buying the proper version. Also there is some complexity in configuring an RTSP ecosystem combined with some software requirements.
If we do want to do something that does not use SD cards and flashing, I would vote for using the firmware downloader and force the download of the RTSP firmware to replace the non RTSP one and the other way around. But this is not a trivial things to do and it is very risky. One defect in that code can brick all the cameras and would cost us tremendously to fix.
Too bad that it would be cost prohibitive 
… I guess a few extra dollars per pre-flashed RTSP camera as I had suggested would not be enough to cover it?
At a high level – Is there any mechanism you can imagine that would mitigate the risk for you guys, but would also allow less sophisticated users - who currently buy cheap Chinese RTSP cams on Amazon - to buy a Wyzecam instead?
For example … if you don’t want the user to be able to switch firmwares w/o appropriate education … Maybe you could have some kind of API in the camera such that an NVR or VMS software on the local network can request the conversion to rtsp? When a conversion is requested, you could validate the owner’s desire to do it somehow (e.g. the user goes to your web site, authenticates, and you show him appropriate warnings and disclaimers, etc before letting him agree to proceed)
This way, any software that chooses to support Wyzecam explicitly can still recommend these cameras without being limited to only users that can jump through complicated hoops, and only the users who already have an NVR or VMS (and thus presumably don’t have problems using RTSP) would be attempting a non-usb-drive-based conversion. Of course, there’s still a risk that those cameras could get bricked in the process, but this way you’re not risking the bulk of your non-RTSP users’ cameras.
(That was just a thought … but it would be really nice for RTSP not to be limited only to the most technical users. I’d love to be able to recommend this as an RTSP cam to my friends.)
Also … If you’re allowed to say - Why can’t RTSP just be put into the main firmware? Resource limitations?
Thanks!
Will this support both RTSP and recording to SD card?
If the camera streams are password protected, this would help with port forwarding & mapping for those who have multiple cameras and want to port map external ports internally.
e.g: Currently running a handful of Wyze cameras on Dafang Hacks repo, some running on 8554, 8555, 8556 and mapped externally inbound.
Would also want to be able to have PTZ control, even if just from the Wyze app. When support is hopefully added for turning off the IR LEDs with night vision on, that would be useful to also keep.
No immediate need for motion tracking, two-way audio. Would be nice to be able to choose to record audio, still.
I’d prefer to not have seperate firmware that I have to flash separately. I could be ok with having the option to flash this other firmware option, and be able to easily flash between the live and separate firmware.
Flashing a optional firmware is great.
I only care about auto NV and being able to disable the IR leds.
Local LAN streaming only.
I use Ivideon as my local NVR and for cloud notification clips. I run it on Linux laptop.
Ivideon also has a Windows client and a cloud portal. It works well.
I also use tiny cam pro with a VPN to my LAN.
Watch cams on my phone. Just built a Android Oreo VM on my work PC so I can watch my house cams while I work using TinyCam pro.
I wont need that once RTSP is supported and can use the Ivideon Windows client.
But VPN might be better. Its good to have options.
Thanks
Worth noting – a way to mitigate the issue of installing from an SD card, that would probably work for most users, is to simply sell an SD card pre-formatted and loaded with the RTSP firmware. Those who don’t want to download the firmware to their own SD card could just order one.