The rationale is because the way it works now, someone can enter my house and do whatever they want for 1-2 minutes before it ever tells me that someone broke in. In fact, that person can probably break into the house, and the Entry delay beeping lets them follow the sound right to the hub, where they can then break the hub so it is incapable of sending the alarm to Noonlight (or me), and then they’re free to do whatever they want because the system told on itself where to find it and what to break before the siren goes off.
On the other hand, if when it is armed it automatically sends me a notification the very instant a security sensor opens, then even if they run up and break the hub within the 1-2 minutes Entry Delay, at least I’ve already been notified there was an entry. Now, if the alarm is not properly"disarmed" (because the guy broke it before it sent an alarm), I have still been alerted and can still call 911 myself, or know to go check cameras, etc.
I should get a notification immediately, but Noonlight should only get a notification when an alarm officially goes off. If I get a disarmed notification a few seconds later, I know to ignore everything, if I don’t, then I know to take action even if the alarm doesn’t go off because the guy followed the noise to go break the hub first.
I completely understand if this is not an option you are interested in. I am not asking that this be forced upon everyone, I am asking that it be made an easy OPTION that people can select to automatically set all security sensors that when armed, they will send an immediate push notification when they are opened during the armed period, and automatically mute all those notifications while disarmed. Those who don’t care about this option (such as yourself) can simply just leave it off. But that doesn’t take away from the other people who would really like to have it.
Truthfully, when they allow us to tie rules to arming status I plan to program rules to do all that myself anyway, so I can personally set it up to work for myself regardless, but it’s not always about me, I am making recommendations that lots of other people also want. I also don’t personally want cellular backup, but a lot of people want that as an add-on, and I support them having that option too even though it’s not for me. I don’t really need the hub to chime when a sensor opens because I know how to make all my Google Home and Alexa devices throughout my house already do all that, but a lot of people don’t know how to do this and want something easy they can just flip on or off. I fully support implementing things to those options to all the people who do really want it and don’t know how to use workarounds.
Hopefully that makes sense. I totally understand your position and agree that things need to be optional so that they continue to work the way you personally prefer…but keep in mind that others personally prefer things differently too, and this option (immediate notification, but not immediate alarm) would be very useful for many other people.
This was clarified that Wyze uses a dual countdown method. Even if someone destroys the hub before disarming the system, the alarm would still inform Noonlight and the owner.
I still like the idea of an immediate alert. For example, when a security cam sees a human it shouldn’t wait 2 minutes to tell me and send a thumbnail just in case someone enters the disarming code, it alerts me immediately anyway. By the same logic, sensors should do the same thing; Alert me to a breach immediately anyway, but don’t trigger the alarm procedures until the grace period expires with no disarm code entered.
This is especially needed for all the people who distrust using Noonlight and leave it in test mode for self monitoring. We would feel better still getting an immediate notice.
Furthermore, if the hub is broken or internet disappears (stops communicating with the cloud) right in the middle of the entry delay period, then assume there is a malevolent reason and trigger the alarm immediately. There is no longer a need to wait until the rest of the delay period expires. Tell Noonlight & Call and text me immediately in that case.