That's it, I'm out. I can't take it any more

In other words…

Does a magic bullet exist or is one coming?

And if one is anticipated, ia there an ETA?

While these questions were prompted by @MrMac 's comment, they’re intended for anyone who might know. :slight_smile:

magic bullet eta

I believe when technology advances to the point that we all have processors embedded into our brains which independently of any wifi, cellular or line line connection will communicate with one another seamlessly, as individual to individual or individual to group, The embedded device will also communicate seamlessly with any and all devices, past, present and future. :laughing:

Cold comfort, Mr. Watts. :ice_cube: :slight_smile:

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You’re right. But, here’s how I look at this forum and others like it. Folks who have problems, issues, and questions are here looking for help in solving them. They may learn that their router simply won’t do what they need it to do. They should also find out that xxx brand/model router being is used by someone else works like a charm and would be the answer to their problems.
Everyone here has bought various devices that are wifi only devices. Some folks are trying to utilize them even for “security” and they expect them to work without glitches. Some folks even get aggravated at the company and blame them for their issues with the network.

The old wifi technology has been replaced with mesh network technology. If someone can’t get a whole bunch of wifi devices to work with their old router then the way to fix that is to upgrade he router.

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And this is why things like WiFi congestion and having too many devices for the router to handle are brought up. Even your neighbor’s equipment can affect your network performance. The person may need new equipment (router, access points, extender, switch to a mesh system, switch some devices to ethernet, etc…). They may need to adjust settings on their existing equipment. Problems can’t really be solved without all the information.

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If you have an android phone you can use an app called “WIFI Analyzer” and check the 2.4 Wifi range while you stand next to your camera with a problem.

You may find that a neighbors Wifi is stronger than yours and on the same channel.

I have to manually adjust me Wifi routers to use different channels based on what college students setup in the houses near me.

Only for Andriod ( iPhones cannot do this)
Appname: WIFI Analyzer
Author: Kevin Yuan

  • I have version 3.11.2


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Just FYI, iOS can do the same thing. Not that specific program perhaps but there are plenty of free network and WiFi analyzers in the AppStore.

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Also if you have a Mac, just hold down the option key while clicking the wifi icon in the menubar. Will give you all the stats including channel selected, channel noise, TX rate and Received signal strength.


I’m not so sure number of devices means a lot with decent routers and internet. I don’t have a mesh system, but I do have a decent mid range Linksys EA8300 router and 200 MB cable internet. I have about 33 devices which include smart bulbs, switches, 5 Alexa devices, 4 fire TV devices, computers, phones, tablets, TV’s, printers and 5 cameras (2 of them Wyze). I have two tablets mounted to the wall in the kitchen and living room that display my door/driveway camera 24/7 .

With all that, I rarely have any device problems. The Wyze cameras almost never fail, but I do need to reconnect the app on the wall mounted tablets maybe once every 2 days, but that has more to do with android or the app since the cameras are still transmitting and I just need to hit the app refresh icon.

Eddited to add: I did have a big problem with the tablets with lag on the latest app and removing hardware acceleration, but rolling back the app worked for now. I also do get dropouts of Wyze sensors more frequently than I like, but the cameras themselves have been very solid even with all the devices on my network.

Hay , another Linksys user :smile: I don’t get any kind of drop outs or anything EA9500


These all sound like network issues. Could be your WiFi, something else in your router, your ISP, interference from your neighbor’s equipment, etc. Blame the Wyze Cam if you want, but you’ll probably experience the exact same issues with anything you decide to replace them with. These Wyze Cams may not be perfect, but they’re a lot better than you seem to be experiencing.

What seems telling to me, is your statement “The thumbnail works, but when I go to full view, auth never completes”. In my experience, the Wyze Cam does not re-auth when you switch to full view. My assumption is, that if yours is re-authing, then that might be because you are having network issues that bump it off. This is consistent with what I said above, about my guess being that you are having network issues in general.

You might want to try downloading an app onto your smartphone for WiFi analysis. Something like “WiFi Analyzer”. See what channels your neighbors are on. I know you said that changes, but what I’m after is checking to see if these neighbors are using the “off channels”. In general, things run much smoother if everybody is playing nice and running on channels 1, 6 or 11. Even if crowded, your hardware can sort things out just fine. The big problem is adjacent channel interference. Like some yahoo saying, “Hey, there’s nobody on channel 7. I’ll use that one!” That just screws everybody’s signal up, including the yahoo’s. That’s because channel 7 overlaps part of the spectrum for channel 6, which pollutes 6. What you will generally see on a WiFi Analyzer screen, is lots of people bunched onto channels 1, 6 and 11. This is good. It’s the oddballs that think they’re being smart and using the other channels that screw it up for everybody else. You can’t really blame the oddballs if they are truly ignorant. It’s the know-it-alls who don’t really know anything and intentionally use the off channels that need to be spoken to.

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What platform does WiFi Analyzer run on?

There are many programs and apps that use the generic term “WiFi Analyzer” in their name and they run on pretty much every platform available. Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, Android etc…

You would need to be a bit more specific.

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Specifically, below is the “WiFi Analyzer” I am talking about. It runs on Android. I don’t know if there is an iOS version of it.


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Below (click on the link, I’m not sure how to post a picture directly to a thread here) is an example WiFi Analyzer screen. Note that the one labeled Tenda_597638 is the yahoo who is operating on the off channel, screwing things up for the folks on channel 1 and channel 6 (you can see the overlap visually).

Note: Things can obviously still work with adjacent channel interference, but it’s much harder for them to work well.

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One further note: On some Smartphones (and I would assume tablets as well) you will need to turn on “Location services” for WiFi Analyzer to work. Something about shared hardware in a few specific devices I believe. For example, I do not need location services for it to work on my Fire HD8 tablet (a good thing, since this tablet does not have GPS!) But on my Motorola G7 smartphone, I have to turn on location services for the app to work. This is mentioned somewhere in the documentation for the app.

On my Windows PC, I’ve always used inSSIDer from MetaGeek for WiFi analysis. Great program …

I was looking at PC Wi-Fi analyzers awhile back , is this fairly intuitive to get started or complicated from the get go?

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