Outdoor Wyze Camera Starter Bundle $10 for Shipping...Seriously?!

Look at it like this any other security door sensor cost $20 for one sensor Wyze is giving you 4 sensor for $25 with tax and shipping that’s a good deal for me.

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That probably pales in comparison for the development cost, tooling, and manufacturing.

They will make their money down the road however, should these things prove successful.

Gouging customers on the shipping fee isn’t cool. Charge us what the shipping actually costs!

My water company made it sound like they’re doing me a favor because while they reduced the usage rate, they increased the base rate. So basically they guarantee a specific revenue, no matter how much water I try to save. And it’s the same way with Wyze. Don’t pop off at how much money you’re saving customers with inexpensive cameras, only to add in a high shipping cost. Again, not cool.

@Ciangi, there are tonnes of door sensors out there that cost less than $5 a piece. Check on eBay. I would never pay $20 for a door sensor (essentially a piece of magnet, metal and a RF transmitter)

You find me a door sensor that works with Alexa and HomeKit for under 20 bucks and I’ll happily eat the thing.

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You said it right!!

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@rbruceporter @Ciangi Are you aware of Home Assistant? You don’t need expensive products. You just need a hub that talks to everything. Plus everything can be locally controlled, which is of importance to me. I don’t want my data to be shared in a manner which I am not comfortable with. If you haven’t, I would highly encourage you both to give it a thought. Wyze is all about pitching products at a fair price… by paying $20 for a door sensor defeats the purpose of investing IMO. I rest my case with this.

Yes, I have used Home Assistant in the past. I like HomeKit better, especially in terms of both privacy and reliability. I use Homebridge to bring the few non HomeKit certified devices into HomeKit. Homebridge is also free as is HomeKit if you use Apple devices.

Just to be clear HomeKit is also all local control. No cloud services except iCloud and that’s only if you choose to use it.

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I believe they’re using a model where the shipping cost covers all costs associated with the product any amount you pay above shipping is profit.

Well, you should look up the what Toyota is settling outside of court once it was proven that is was a software induced problem.

Wyze isn’t doing anything “wrong” Mr. Porter. They’re just making errors. You know this deal with $x.99? It’s x + 1… to hell with the .99. But for a time people were fooled. So, with shipping… people are not fooled with “free shipping”. But it makes life a lot easier when you’re checking out. And it makes it far easier comparing prices with the competition.

I agree, they are doing nothing wrong. :grinning: But most Europeans will argue that since we don’t include sales tax in the listed price we are “deceptive”, and by their view we are.

Same with “free shipping” or “free handling” or what have you. It’s definitely a buyer beware world.

Nothing was proven that it was a software induced problem. And as I said the only fix to the Prius was to shorten the acceleration pedal, that’s it.

Just ordered some accessories for my Pan and Camv2 and half of the order price was for the shipping cost. This is really ridiculous!

And since the Amazon and Home Depot prices are the same, which includes what it would cost directly from Wyze with the shipping fee, that tells me Wyze has set pricing rules in place with those retailers. Because there is no reason why Amazon and Home Depot couldn’t sell the cameras for the same price as Wyze without the shipping fee.

So, if the Wyze Cam v2 sells for $19.99 at Wyze, it should also be this same price at these other retailers. I should be able to walk into my local Home Depot and pay $19.99 and the same at Amazon with Prime shipping.

Ah but facts never discourage a good conspiracy theory. :grin:

Okay, whatever.

Oh my god… you really have to start to site things instead of just claiming. Here’s a link. There’s lots of them. https://www.eejournal.com/article/20131127-toyota/ I used to perform failure analysis for nuclear reactors for ComEd Illinois on both GE and Westinghouse designs. I had three days to figure out what happened and propose a solution to the NRC. I also performed quality assurance on military weapon systems in the Canadian Armed Forces. You might be familiar with the US Navy Tomahawk and US Air Force Cruise missile? The guidance system was built in Toronto. Maybe the Light Armored Vehicles (LAVs) that the US Marine Corp uses. F18s? Toyota screwed up.

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Blink… blink blink.

Well technically @Resist is correct. It was not proven that an error caused the problem. What came out was and I quote from the article you linked:

Instead, there’s only supposition. But what a careful examination of the car’s firmware showed is that it could have failed in the way described in the case, not necessarily that it did fail.

This is not proof, what the lawyers did was an excellent job of convincing a jury that it was likely.

Like you I write software, for decades actually. And for many years I wrote embedded code like that in this case. The systems I worked on then ran the pumps and valves to control potable water systems and sewage and rain water systems in Florida. When that code failed the proverbial smelly stuff hit the streets!


My friend, Toyota is settling out of court. They are not challenging it. They are not taking it any further. There’s no need.