Fix-It Friday 2/25/22

The only software request on the list for cameras…

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I have also missed multiple person detection events on my doorbell cam. I have the sensitivity set to 70, but I almost have to have my face in front of it to get a person event.

I have another issue though with the doorbell cam (wired version, not pro). When it does record a motion event, the playback shows it as a ‘Live’ video feed. I also do not have any option for 2x or 4x on that “live” video playback.


As you can see the screenshot shows 12:12 pm on the phone screenshot when I played the event video. But the event was recorded at 7:04 am. Can’t be live. I also see the cam is registering the video an hour later… 8:04 am. I think I just fixed that by syncing the time.

Also, the event shows as a 5 minute clip, but the actual video plays from 8:04:37 to 8:05:10 (by the cam timestamp) and then hangs with the circle wheel chasing itself.

I searched for a topic about this and couldn’t find one. Perhaps someone could refer me to one. Haven’t submitted a ticket yet either. Going to wait to see if the forum can point me to some obscure setting on my end.

Thanks

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Ever since I updated to Android 12, I can not view a V3 cam in landscape mode. V2 is Ok. Android 10 on my phone works.

Yea the doorbell for me is normally the most accurate and never misses a detection so I don’t know what’s going on, restarting hasn’t fixed it so it has to be an AI problem. I’ve been submitting clips from the beginning anyways so I hope wyze is aware of this and fixes person detection on the doorbell. @WyzeShawn @UserCustomerGwen

Attempting to view SD card Playback while viewing an Event from a Wyze notification results in “No micro SD card installed in camera” error.

Bug exists only under the Wyze app for Android. This bug is not phone-specific, cam type-specific or card size/type-specific. Bug exists whether SD recording is set to Continuous or Events Only. Problem exists running Cam Plus, Cam Plus Lite and no subscription. Bug present under Android 8, 9, 10 and 11. Bug not present under iOS 15.3.1. Verified SD card Event footage integrity via Home > Events > same event as notification > Playback.

Screenshot_20220227-132455_Wyze

Edit: Updated to be specific to Android.

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Posting again because it would be nice to get a response from Wyze regarding this issue.

Android specific bug?
Media volume only works properly for Pan V1, doorbell, doorbell pro and WCO v1. Call volume shows up for v2, v3, and Pan v2. There’s a smaller range with call volume, You can’t adjust it down to zero and cant turn it on as loud as media volume. It should be able to be fixed via an app update because the old Android app 2.15.21 used media volume when adjusting the audio volume.
Android 2.28.0 (102)

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Posting again… See original bug post about event videos out if sync from @carverofchoice

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What’s bugging me is this Error 90 that no one will ever seem to help me with

[Mod Note]: Need to elaborate or post link to issue discussion. Link added below:

Wyze Cam V3 keeps disconnecting (with error code 90)

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And now I’m back! Thanks, Jimmy!

Welcome to another Fix-It Friday Follow-Up!

This time, we tried sending out the Fix-It Friday posts to all of our communities to get feedback from everyone at once. We may be adjusting things further on Friday after trying it this way and we appreciate your patience while we finetune.

And without further ado, here are the top issues each community presented!

Reddit

Audio out of sync on saved videos

This is a really tricky issue that we’ve worked on multiple times over the years with some improvement! If you’re experiencing this, please consider giving us video examples and logs so that we can take a closer look.

Some cams use phone volume instead of media volume and can’t go to “0” volume

This is something that has been an issue in some cases for quite a while. We have flagged it to the team and will keep you posted on any major progress!

Wyze Core Community

Auto Unlock is unreliable

We have alerted the team to this issue and have begun investigating. If you are experiencing issues with this feature, please consider submitting logs whenever possible!

Cam Plus AI accuracy issues

Thanks for the feedback! There are a few different things that can go wrong with AI so we’ll address them all here. In general, it’s hard to fix accuracy because it involves training algorithms. However, we hear that some people are experiencing a decrease in accuracy so we’re looking under the hood.

For incorrect AI detection: Please continue to submit videos for review and algorithm training! We didn’t post a new AI model for a few months but we just sent one out last week. We’re also working on a method to help customers with debugging AI issues and that will be available later this year.

For AI totally not working: We would need a firmware log to help us figure out what’s going on here. If you have a microSD card and are up for helping with this, please reach out to Wyze Customer Support! The team requests info about what service you’re using (Cam Plus versus Cam Plus Lite) and they also would like confirmation about what your AI settings are. It could be an issue where the license didn’t properly attach to your camera so please make sure you check that, too!

Forum

Landscape Mode

This is a feature request but has been a super consistent one for a long time. The general background is that we’d need to rework a lot of the Wyze app to make this happen due to design debt. We were working on a 3.0 app version a while back and landscape and dark mode were originally being considered for that effort. Our plans and resourcing changed some when the pandemic began and that reprioritized the app overhaul so we don’t have a time estimate for it. However, we hear you! And we make sure that these features are often added to conversations internally.

Attempting to view microSD card Playback while viewing an Event from a Wyze notification results in a “No micro SD card installed in camera” error

This sounds like it may be an Android app issue. We’re on the case - if you are able to recreate this issue, please send in logs for review!!

Discord

“Getting Video Data” taking a long time on Wyze Cam Outdoor after the most recent firmware update

“Base is connected via ethernet and Outdoor unit is less than 20 feet away. Prior to update picture appeared almost instantly on first 3/3 refresh. Now sometimes as many as 8-10. 2 outdoor units connected to same base and both exhibit similar behavior.”

Our developers are looking into this one and we suspect it’s related to a library change. We’ll be discussing resolution approaches when we confirm the root cause.

Thanks for joining us for Fix-It Friday and we look forward to chatting again this Friday!

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You all are on the ball! In communication with devs and logs sent. :+1:

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Hello @UserCustomerGwen thank you for acknowledging that this is still an issue.

I will have to say that your carefully curated response doesn’t have me walking away from this conversation with any more confidence in Wyze getting Wyze App v3.0 done anytime soon, if ever.

You introduced the phrase “Design Debit”, I went to the great google, and the first hit was:

I read the article top to botton, and almost felt as if Wyze could of been the poster child for the article.

Have you shared this article with Wyze Management?

The article goes on to talk about ‘late fees’ and “interest” on the ‘design debt’

I’m of the opinion, that the longer Wyze continues to kick the Wyze App redesign down the road for another day, is another day of late fees and interest piling up to contribute to Wyze Customers both current and potentially future customers deciding that they can’t get past the quality of the Wyze App to be able to continue forward as repeat customers of additional Wyze products or services. We’ve seen that type of feedback in these forums where folks are walking away from Wyze for other products, due to this issue.

Another quote from the Article:

to address your comment of:

My question to you is, is it a One Way conversation with Wyze Internal folks and you?

Aren’t you getting the least bit tired of being the go between of us frustrated users and those making the decision to continue to shine us on for four+ years?

The Wyze App is the glue that holds most of the Wyze products together, I fail to understand the logic of Wyze not giving the Wyze App the top priority over new products being developed.

Fix what you have first, then make new exciting cost effective stuff !

I’m quite the fan of Wyze Products, take a look at all the Wyze stuff I own. I don’t want to go elsewhere for the items I have purchased from Wyze. But if the wheels continue to fall off the bus, eventually You and Wyze will leave me no other choice than to move on.

One last think I’d like to share… as we speak of Interest on the design debt… the longer you continue to make a ‘minimum payment’ (or in Wyze’s case, no Payment at all) on your design debit… the more it will cost in the long run…

For example… you can fix it in 3 years… and make happy customers…or wait 23 years… and you won’t have any customers around to pump money into the Wyze Coffers, and you’ll be that much more broke or bankrupt:

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Please share this article on design debt with Wyze Management, it’s the right thing to do

SJ

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@nixhome2020… SPOT ON!

While there are many smart people working on the support of the existing App platform, and I applaud them for sticking with Wyze customers this far, I have long had the feeling, based on all the shiny new low impact gagets Wyze Executives are rushing to the market, that their financial future and corporate success goals rest on the bet that they can raise quicker capital gains by mass-marketing low function tech gadgets that take very little human and financial capital to develop and support. It certainly does make me reconsider my loyalty to a Wyze ecosystem. It’s almost as though they have adopted the Dollar General philosophy of tech… Quantity, not Quality.

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When are you going to fix the main website page?

Go to “wyze.com”. Across the top of the page there are a number of links for “Shop”, “Forums”, “Support”, etc., etc. None of the links work on my iPad and they haven’t worked for over a month. Maybe the whole problem is that I use my iPad in landscape mode and I know your “programmer” doesn’t understand how to do landscape mode. It would be nice if someone from Wyse would check these things once in a while.

What level of iOS are your running? They appear to work on my iPad in landscape mode, so need more focus.

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I don’t normally access this page on my iPad, but I can now confirm this behavior on my iPad Pro 12.9 in Landscape mode, as well as Portrait mode in Chrome, Firefox and Safari:

Chrome example of issue:

In Landscape, I cannot tap on anything in Red:

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In Portrait, lose the " “Shop”, “Forums”, “Support”, etc., " as they tuck into a Navigation “Button”, I can tap on the Navigation 'Button"

But same behavior, where I cannot tap on “Shop”, “Forums”, “Support”, etc.,

SJ

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This was well put together SJ. Great, helpful, and informative post. Thanks for the effort you put into that to confirm what OP was explaining.

Hi, thanks for flagging this! We’ll be launching a full redesign of Wyze.com very soon that will fix this. :slight_smile:

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i love my Wyze robo vac but hate that you can’t split a room via virtual walls. this sucks if you have a big open concept house… can you please allow split rooms in virtual rooms please? thank you

Seriously does anyone in support ever answer you back when you contact them over n over???

@carverofchoice Can we start splitting out conversations in this fix-it Friday to Topics that make sense for the discussion? There are many great conversations occurring in Fix-it Friday 2/25/22 that should live in there own Message threads.

Getting a notification for another post in Fix-it Friday 2/25/22 doesn’t do any justice for each of the important discussions taking place here.

This also goes for the many Message Threads having to do with Firmware Updates that include more than one product…. Wyze should limit Firmware Update Postings to one Thread per Product/Firmware update.

SJ